I need advice, should I abandon ASAP the training plan that Forecast AI generated for me or should I grow a pair?
Are those High and Peak requirements even achievable? If so what workouts should i do? 3 or 4 Ronnestad in a row?
The program ramps up , demand is increasing from 30/10 in February to 70/20 in September (i guess it makes sense), but that high stress makes sense? Whtat is the max one should do in one workout?
BTW, autogen is unable to generate those workouts…
Ty for the advice.
That’s some big numbers.
What is your current training load and what is the program?
My current CTL is 110, and the program is Barry Roubaix 100mi (Mixed Puncheur
4.2 Minute Power with 45% Specificity).
Forgot to mention IA planned those workouts twice a week!
If you have a 110 training load you sound like are pretty training already. I looked back thrrough my own training history and the only times I’ve have numbers like that when after coming back from severe injuries and lost a lot of fitness. Have you ever had any previous rides that had that amount of HIE?
I had a looked at Barry Roubaix and it looks like a crazy event, it must need crazy training!
If there aren’t any workouts to fit the training demand, maybe you can try our the Magic Buckets app and build it on the go.
Good luck!
I’d suggest putting in a support ticket. Workout with high of 70 is insane unless you are part of the pro Peloton. I thought the ones I’ve gotten over 15 were crazy but at least at the upper end of possibility.
Yeah those are big boy numbers for that mixed puncheur screenshot you posted! I would go back and take a look at the limits you put in place for Xert before generating that training plan. Specifically, do you have any limitation set for the number of hours per week? Did you change any of the other default settings on the Choose a Program page?
It would be interesting if you could post some more details on the program. My own experience is that if I set an ambitious goal without limiting those program parameters, then Xert will generate training plans that eventually has me training like the pro cyclist I will never be…
Workouts with about 30 XSS in the high bucket and 10-12 XSS in the peak bucket are fine once or twice per week, although that’s obviously a very personal preference. I have a hard time comprehending a session with 70 in the high bucket, though.
Not necessarily a direct answer, but thought I’d chime in here as well. Might be TMI, but hopefully it helps explain some of the tremendous intricacies of the system!
The High/Peak XSS recommended can depend on numerous factors, including:
Things start getting even more complex when you start considering all these factors together, but that’s what Forecast AI is looking at every day when recommending training. It also looks into how each training session fits around all the other days & ensures that high-intensity training isn’t recommended when you’re yellow status, that training isn’t recommended when you’re red status, & that all the training needed fits within your available training time. 
Hope this is a bit insightful/helpful!
Always review your settings to understand why something that seems strange may be occurring. There nothing to trust per se since it’s just making the numbers add up for you.
For example, if your XSSR Preference is set to match your training load and your plan is long and reaches a very high training load, you will see (as you would require in fact) very big days of training. I would be careful checking that box for training plans that get you to very high training loads. We should probably show a warning.
If your Polarization Level is 4:1 or 5:1, then you’ll see bigger high intensity days since you’ll need to achieve progressive overload on your high and peak training loads doing a high-intensity workout once every 5 or 6 days. Again, if you’re aiming for some big overall training load, you’ll need to do these.
If you choose a Pure focus goal, you’ll need a lot of high intensity training. It’s not needed for the vast majority of regular road riding but if you’re aiming to do a hill climb, for example, which would be a Pure focus, then you’ll likely see some pretty big training days leading into the competition to maximize your power for a single, exhausitive effort.
So review things to see why these are being prescribed and make adjustments accordingly. Ask for help from support if you can’t find the answers. There is nearly always a reasonable and sound explanation for things.
Thx for all the answers.
It makes sense how the system works, but should’nt have some constrains?
is it fisiologically posibly to have such strain in your body twice a week?
It should provide a warning and I made a note of that.
Just thought I’d follow up in this thread…
FWIW, I’ve had 2 Pure Pursuiter workouts recommended this week as part of my training, each with about 25 High XSS & 7 Peak XSS. I completed both and feel better than I thought I would.
After today’s ride, my High TL is currently sitting at 4.7. Looking a bit further down the road in my program, I have a few rides that are in the 50-60 High XSS range, but that might change as my program progresses & I adapt. By that time, my High TL is projected to be almost doubled, so should be able to cope with it, but we’ll see. If I find that too much, I may need to adjust my polarization settings so that I get smaller doses of High XSS more frequently, rather than the large 50-60 High XSS doses every 4 days.
That’s a ton of strain. Do you think you might be sitting on a breakthrough and your signature is under reported?
Maybe!
I’ve had ~5 maximal efforts already this year (4 near-breakthroughs, 1 BT). But I have been feeling rather strong lately, so might be a time to push myself for another breakthrough…
Nice to see you can manage that high strain! Can i ask what kinda workout did you do?
Last week for the first time i followed the AI trainig plan (had to Adapt Forecast once) and managed to do 1011 Low XSS, 34.8 High XSS and 8.3 Peak XSS…as an older athlete (getting close to 50’s) I’m pretty much cooked up.
Today I decided to be a “guinea pig” an try again the “Barry Robaix” training program until i blowout… Even i know the recovery times and trainig loads goes agains me i’ll give it a try…
I’m gonna try to mantain a consistent training log.
Traing Load:
Let the madness begin!
So I did a similar workout recommendation on Monday & Thursday last week. Technically I was still yellow from Monday’s ride when I started on Thursday, but I felt good and proceeded with the plan, opting not to adapt.
Rather than trying to get all the High XSS done in one go, I decided to split it up into 3 “sets” on Monday & 2 “sets” on Thurs. Basically both workouts came down to something akin to 20:40’s. Since I couldn’t find a comfortable gear to hit to recommended target power during the ride, I finished each session with a few max effort sprints to top up my peak bucket.
Monday:
Thurs:
Same!
I’ll be continuing with my given settings, but if I start finding that 40+ High XSS is too much to accumulate in one session, I’ll probably adjust my polarization settings from 4:1 down to 3:1 or maybe even 2:1 to spread the High XSS across a few more sessions each week, rather than having 1-2 heavy doses each week.
