Question: "Remaing Recovery" Interpretation

Question. My status is very tired, but only have 6 more hours rest needed in “Low”. What happens after the 6 hours? Will I be “blue"/fresh” and ready for action again? or will it shift from very tired red to tired yellow? Not sure how I should interpret the remaining recovery information.
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Hi Per, good question!

You’re correct, in ~6 hours, you’ll return to blue status since your High & Peak systems are already recovered (recovery is 0 hrs). If one of those was let’s say 24 hours, then you would be red for ~6 hours, and then switch to yellow status for the following ~18 hours.

Important Note/Reminder: Training status is calculated using your recent activities (L/H/P XSS), relative to your long-term fitness (L/H/P training loads) and may/may not always correspond with how you subjectively feel. That’s why Freshness Feedback exists!

I think there are still some improvements that can be made here to improve clarity.. we have some ideas on how we can achieve this. This is the logic that governs training status:

  • If Low is > 0 hrs, then training status is Very Tired, regardless of high/peak recovery demands; rest is recommended
  • If High and/or Peak Recovery is > 0 hrs, then training status is Tired and high intensity should be avoided
  • If Low, High, & Peak Recovery is 0 hrs, then training status is Fresh and you con proceed with training as planned, including high intensity.

Perhaps supplementing the text beneath the recovery numbers would help clarify:

:blue_square: Fresh - All systems recovered
→ High-intensity training recommended (or okay)

:yellow_square: Tired - High and/or Peak recovery > 0 h
→ Train, but avoid high intensity

:red_square: Very Tired - Low recovery > 0 h
→ Rest or complete recovery only

Or perhaps indicate how long it will take to recover to fresher states from where you are now. There are many ways to relay information. Need to decide what’s simplest and most clear.

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Thanks a lot!

I understand. The suggestions you have on furthere improve clarity are good ones imho :ok_hand:

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Another question on the new homepage. The Magic Bucket challenge level, is that something Xert will set based on my performance/history? or is the idea that I set it myself based on how I feel? I understand that I can set it to whatever I want but is it something I “need” to do or can I just let Xert manage it?

Set it yourself based on feeling/time available/goals. Higher challenge level has you running at lower MPA e.g. cl3 will have intervals end with 70% mpa remaining once you work down to that point. Algorithm is to go up two levels an interval with one level of recovery until you get to the desired challenge level.

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IIRC, the CL should be pre-filled based on your XSS targets, availability, & XSS per hour preference.

@ConorP did a great job summarizing it :raising_hands:

Pay attention to the estimated duration as you click through the different levels (and even as you modify the interval duration a bit). I don’t usually generate XMB workouts, but when I free-style with Magic Buckets in Zwift or outdoors, I tend to stick around CL 5-6, as I feel it’s a good balance of being time-efficient without being overly challenging.

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During race days and days when I YOLO in Zwift, I use MB so I can see how much additional High and Peak I need to push, in order to not get too deficient. 5-6 looks about right. I’ll test it out :ok_hand:

Just want to say that I very much appreciate the hours/days of remaining recovery for low/high/peak. Gives me a new level of insight :heart:

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