I think the best/most accurate way to see the stress level now is to adjust the time in Add Activity screen.
Isn’t High XSS only generated when the power is above TP? You should be able to see that in the workout designer.
Kind of torn here … I too noticed endless blue since the change and I am being recommended harder training than in past, and every day, because of that. That said l, I was basically able to complete them and they are all at least a star or more higher than my current status. My signature does seem to be correct.
When I adjusted the recovery status to halfway up, I am getting a day or so of yellow after these planned sessions which kind of lines up how I think I should feel.
So… What to do? Leave as default and risk burning up soon? Or move it up to where I think it should be?
Note that in the past it would work differently for people depending on their training status. You may have been one of those that the saw it work well based on your feelings and training loads. With this release, it may not be the same by default but you should be able adjust the slider and get similar (if not better results).
Did you change anything regarding the freshness model over the weekend?
I could swear my planner was blue/green until yesterday even while having the recovery demands slider to the far right.
Just now I noticed it switched to a lot of yellow/red, even retrospectively, which feels much more correct given my slider position.
On Thursday, a fix was put in to not to apply Freshness Feedback on the advice shown on the left other than today. This should not have affected the gradients and only affected what was shown on the advice panel.
I guess I’m trying to find the right balance, I don’t want to push myself into overtraining, I also don’t want to under train. I did a pretty tough week last week and adjusted the slider until the coloring for the past week looked about how I felt. I guess I’ll see what it does in the coming coming weeks.
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Great discussion. One possible bug that has me confused is that training status doesn’t seem to get updated in the “Planner” tab at the same time as the “Training” tab. I’ve often seen, after a hard ride, that the Training tab has me properly as yellow or red but on the Planner I’m still in the blue. Later in the day the Planner seems to catch up. And to add more confusion, in the Player’s Statistics window, Trainer Status and XSS Deficit appears to have a mind of its own.
Should there be a lag between the tabs for updates of Training Status? Is there any way to force them to get updated at the same time? Also, how are the Trainer Status and XSS Deficit fields calculated in the Player?
That should be fixed. The planner gradients will show more details for today.
As for the Remote Player, the status is before the ride and XSS Deficit should be realtime.
Glad to hear the planner status is fixed.
As for the Remote Player: Today, as often happens for me, it showed my status as Red (although it looks more pink to me) as soon as I started the ride, even though I was clearly in the Blue everywhere else. Also, it showed me with just a little Deficit, which turned into a significant Surplus by the end of the ride. In reality, AFTER the ride, I had a bit of XSS Deficit. It looked like the training status and XSS Deficit at the start of the ride was what it should have been at the end of the ride.
The logic may be including the planned XSS into the calculation of status and deficit. That should expire when you start the workout but may not be reflected in the remote player. Try refreshing it once started. Also check to see if the planned activity isn’t expired. Let support know if you find anything that doesn’t look right.
I’ll try refreshing the player. Thanks.
One other thing I noticed is that if a planned activity has expired it disappears from the planner. Often, when I want to do the workout later in the day, I don’t remember what it was, and then can’t find it again. It would be nice if the planner was a bit more forgiving and did not remove the workout till the end of the day.
If you want a planned activity to remain on the Planner the entire day, set the Start time to late in the evening.
The activity won’t disappear until it has expired unless another activity is recorded that overlaps the later activity.
It has always worked this way. Makes sense, no?
Sort of, but if you really think that you’re going to ride at 1PM then you want to see what’s best at 1PM, not 11PM. I suppose you can pick a ride for 1PM and then set it to 11PM, but then future rides you plan will be affected. I just want the planner to be more forgiving of procrastinators who do a few hours late.
I’ve struggled with this too. Maybe the workout could still show after it’s scheduled time, but the XSS could disappear, if it was in the past?
You could argue the expired workout no longer applies so an expiry function is to your benefit. However, I don’t think it’s that crucial even if you are on the cusp of changing from tired to fresh between scheduled start and actual workout time.
XSS is king rather than a specific workout at a specific time.
Did you ride enough today to keep the pacer needle within target ramp rate range?
All of the workouts on suggested lists with similar suitability are valid choices even if you elect to change Duration or use Filter.
It’s really pretty simple: I spend time picking out a workout which then disappears because I’m late. I don’t want to spend time again picking out a new workout, and it’s especially annoying because I often can’t even find the workout I already picked.
Not a big deal, but it seems like an easy modification to avoid this situation.
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I think that’s right. You should at least be able to have a prescription for a given day showing what your intention is. What I’ve done with the new planner notes is take the XSS I’m aiming for the the week and particular days, but I get it’s far from ideal.