The Forecast AI seems like the coolest feature in xert for years and I have been very keen use it some training. After a week, I collected a list of small annoyances to report or ask about. I skimmed through the existing thread and the support home I couldn’t see any place with documentation or some formal channel for feedback. I am posing a few things here.
If there are two activities on a day, the planner picks up the first one and ignores the actual workout. It’s common to have recorded a short warm-up or commute. Is there any way to match an activity to the forecasted/prescribed training? (image 1)
Sometimes, if the activity is recorded via e.g. zwift, the planner keeps showing both the one completed and the one prescribed as “Forecast” and I can’t get it to accept that I did it.
Auto-generated workouts do not get added on the same day. I have to save them, make sure they are not excluded form the search results and then schedule them manually.
The “Adapt forecast” red dot does not go away after adapting and saving. Even after doing it 2 or 3 times in a row.
What do various suitability words and icons mean? What is better, good or productive? At least once the auto-generated workout had a red icon in the suitability field getting me very confused.
Will the “adapt forecast” take into account fitness signature changes? A few days after I started a breakthrough brought very close to the goal I set. Will this affect the plan adaptation? Or does it ignore it.
Do the two entries have overlapping start/end times? (start time + duration)
Normally a completed activity bumps any other overlapping one.
If two activities don’t overlap, they’ll both remain on the calendar until the end time of the uncompleted one. This may not be obvious without a screen refresh.
Are you using Autogen from the Training page? (today, tomorrow and day after)
I normally only use Autogen if a suitable workout or session is not found.
Turns out this corrects itself the next day. The screenshot was taken on the same day of the workout and the ride. I suspect the planner is expecting that you may do another workout. It would be nice to have an “assign” button to control this explicitly but it’s a detail.
The auto-gen workout is properly selected for the day but the planner does not show it. This happens whether I click auto-generate from the planner or from the training.
Good news
Thank you! I am still confused by some results there. See image below.
I would suspect it does not which is a good thing. A fakethrough sorted it for me
Auto-generated workout not matching the goals and getting a red?!
Hi Ridgerider2, I have followed the link to the Training suitability page, however there is no reference to the green tick, redd cross or amber exclamation. I have no idea what they mean and how to interpret them to judge which workout is most suitable for me. E.g is a red cross, very production, optimal focus a bad choice compared to a green cross, good or productive, optimal focus? And what causes a transition from a green productive, optimal focus to a amber productive, optimal focus? Any assistance appreciated. Cheers, Mike
Optimal focus: As it says, the focus (duration and intensity of efforts) matches the prescribed
Near focus: Not a great match but not very far off
Out of focus: Nothing like the prescribed
I have not yet deciphered what the icon means exactly. It may be some other metric such as polarity, duration, difficulty or a combination. I am usually sticking to the green tickbox.
Someone else with better knowledge can tell us about the icon.
On a XATA program the Suitability terms apply as noted.
On an XFAI program the dot icons appear to indicate how closely a workout adheres to today’s goal.
For example, if the day’s goal is 125 XSS with a Mixed GC Specialist Focus then workouts close to that target ratio and total will display a green checkmark dot. Orange is sufficient in XSS total but out of focus. Red cross is short of the XSS goal or out of focus or both. [@ManofSteele – article update needed?]
On most days you’ll likely see a variety of suitable indoor and outdoor activities to choose from.
On some days the recommended lists may not find a close match in the Workout Library. If so, you can use the XMB Workout Generator or Autogen to create a suitable match for the day. Or follow XMB guidelines (outdoors or indoors) to fill the buckets.
In either case there is never one workout you must do. You have a choice.
On XFAI if those choices stray too far from the target that can trigger an Adapt Forecast warning. Or the warning appears if you select suitable entries day-to-day but fall chronically short/over the week-to-week forecast for low/high/peak strain. Time to consider rebalancing your plan.
On XATA this is evident by the pacer needle position and day-to-day surplus/deficit.
Another way to look at it is at the top level your day is either HIT, LIT, or Rest/Recovery.
The next level is how much total strain (XSS) to target with estimated activity duration.
The next level is defined by Focus (how that strain is distributed between Low/High/Peak).
The next level is Specificity (Polar, Mixed, Pure). How you achieved the Focus target.
HIT days have a Focus and Specificity. Ex, Mixed Rouleur or Pure Climber.
LIT days are Pure Endurance (you decide if all easy Z2 or tempo/SS in the mix).
At the top level you might complete a HIT or LIT workout, but it was Out of Focus or well short/over the XSS goal for the day. No green checkmark but kudos for riding your bike today.
Thankyou! It sounds like the specific triggers for green, amber and red suitability circles are not clear, but in general are a good reference as to whether a workout is suitable which is perhaps a good place to start, and at a high level all I need.
OR I can free ride using XMB (outdoors or indoors) and fill the day’s Low/High/Peak buckets. Low: 118High: 10.3Peak: 1.6Total: 130
It doesn’t have to be exact to earn green checkmarks and circles.
The idea being your XFAI calendar will display green circles if your completed workout activities were in close proximity to the day’s goal.
Some days you’ll inevitably earn red circles from riding something else (on purpose), taking an unplanned day off, joining a group ride or some other activity that didn’t closely match the day’s goal. That’s okay to a point where it triggers an Adapt Forecast warning. Then you can determine what constraint(s) have been broken (view magenta bars on forecast chart) and decide whether to rebalance the plan.
High: 10.3 