Hello community,
I’m a little confused about the planner right now.
I have set a forecast event for the beginning of April. Race Hilly. With a duration of 1h30 and an availability of 15h.
I’m currently reaching an event with this Readiness of 1.2, which is ok.
However, I now have the problem that Xert wants to increase the plan itself to 17h, which is more than stated. If I tell myself that I have less than 15 hours of time, I am told that the training would not be sustainable. Why?
But if I take the plan with 17 hours, then it gets even wilder.
I have a workload of at least 140 XSS even compressed in 1 to 1:30 hours and almost every day for the next few weeks. Often between 170-210 XSS.
And none of these trainings are in the LIT area. Actually always above fatmax.
I’m just at a loss as to whether I’ve set something up wrong here. My feeling and my legs tell me that they won’t go along with it…
Are you viewing the forecast chart to determine the weekly volume?
Hover over each weekly line to view the hours estimate.
What is your current Status Stars count?
Are your General Settings set to default positions or something else?
The Weekly Hours Looks fine. Its around 15h.
The Planning of my Workouts and XSS/Time Looks also ok.
But the Workouts at HIT or LIT days Looks Not so ok.
HIT Days with 2h and XSS 150-200 will compressed to a 1h Workout…
LIT day Workouts will not really LIT day. all Workouts are over my fatmax
I also think that Xert set my TP 25W too high.
My Star Rating is around 4,5 and Switching from fresh to tiered and back every day
This is exactly the problem I am having. I just submitted a forum post on it that is awaiting approval from a moderator. It’s got me baffled. Next week I’m supposed to do 12hr per the plan calendar and the chart that was referenced here. But when I go in and look at the recommended workouts for all the days I barely get to 7hrs (but still almost spot on in terms of total XSS)…
Actually the week after next. You can see Weds and Thurs on the calendar are the days in question. 12hrs for the week is what the plan says I should do. Thursday the recommended workout looks fine. But Wednesday you’ll see while it is HIT it is nowhere near the duration. Either that Wednesday shouldn’t be HIT, or the week shouldn’t actually be 12hr on the the plan, or who knows, something else…
Hi @moellert1 - Great question! We’ve made a number of discoveries and improvements in this area over the last couple of years while developing Forecast AI and the new Magic Buckets algorithm.
The forecast placeholders are estimated durations based on the Low, High, and Peak XSS. How long it actually takes to complete a workout can vary quite a bit. You could do generally “easier” workouts, which will take more time, or you could tackle harder workouts and complete the XSS in a shorter time.
We created a quick table in our documentation for Magic Buckets that shows how long it would take to achieve the same XSS as a standard 70-minute 5x5 VO2max workout. It ranges from ~1.5 hours at the lowest challenge level down to ~45 minutes at Challenge Level 5. That’s a 50% reduction in training time for the same XSS:
If you haven’t tried the Hardness Tests yet, level 10 is really tough at 4.5 diamond rating! This means it can accumulate a lot of XSS in a relatively short period of time, but you’ll be doing some hard intervals with your MPA already pulled down. Make sure you’re mentally & physically prepared for that one!
Recommended training will match XSS first, followed by duration. If you filter by lower-difficulty workouts, you’ll likely see longer sessions that still meet the L/H/P targets. We’re also beta testing a new feature that will allow users to more accurately estimate the difficulty rating (or duration) needed to achieve the recommended XSS for a given day. We’re excited to release that soon!
Just to be clear, from an Xert philosophical standpoint I should focus on achieving the targeted XSS as the primary objective and if I felt like doing a longer workout with less intensity or more “breaks” between efforts I can filter to find longer duration. But I don’t need to be worried that the AI is going to get confused or blow up my program if my weekly hours don’t match what shows in the calendar etc. I don’t mind intensity and I’m definitely not opposed to skipping 330am alarms to do the longer rides, so that answer is perfectly satisfactory to me!
Correct! In the table I posted above, our 3-dimentional strain model would say that all 6 of those workouts are “equivalent”, despite them all being slightly different in terms of difficulty & duration.
Absolutely! You’ll often see the most “time efficient” workouts closer to the top of the list, but they’re also a bit more challenging. If you have the time to train, you’re more than okay to pick a longer training (or do your training at a lower Challenge Level, in Magic Bucket terms).
