Beta Forecast AI - Super interested

2-1/2 hours?? What TL star count are you starting a progression with?
For the few times I have used Autogen so far it has been spot on. For a HIIT workout it goes straight for the jugular so I weigh my options first. There is always something else to choose from that may suit me better. However, at 2-1/2 hours the workout choices will be slim or none.
Only workout longer than 2 hours I’d do indoors would be Lucy or something along those lines (mostly blue).
Perhaps the generator needs to scale back when the duration is long.
OTOH if you had done the workout outdoors it would have been to best efforts, similar to what you ended up doing. I doubt I’d even try to keep that up for 2+ hours.
Did you get a green sticker? That’s the important part. :smiley:

Polarization schedule can be tough as hard days are hard and easy days are easy. You can adjust the polarization level on the Settings tab under Goals if you’re finding stuff to difficult to complete. Less polarization can be a bit more tolerable. Having said that, we are updating the platform regularly as we receive feedback from athletes on what they’re seeing and what needs improvement. We just rolled out one today that likely provides a bit better overall intensity scheduling and still enables you to reach your target.

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I’m above 2 stars and targeting 3 by my event. But yeah I have the same concern. That’s looong workouts and the forecaster put a ton of them that long on my schedule. I think I need to edit my time constraints on the other days to allow longer workouts during the week.

I took away all my time constraints except to two days a week I can’t train much. Here is my 1st couple weeks in January. Lot of 2+ hour workouts all the way until the target event. I just used the adapt button. I didn’t use the forecast button at the top again.

Except then I re-ran the whole thing at the top and got pretty drastically different results. Still lots of 2 Hour workouts but lots more days with nothing and lower overall hours. I thought I kept the target event parameters the same but I can’t really be sure because it doesn’t seem to be saving them and I didn’t make a note of exactly what I put before… but I think I have the target XSS the same as it was before at least.

EDIT: reran the forecaster a 3rd time and just changed the event type to something else so it let me adjust the polar/mixed slider. This time it’s about in the middle instead of all the way to the left at polar. I still have many workouts over 2 hours and it doesn’t appear to be using all the days I have available to train very often. I can do 8-9 hours a week but I’d really prefer to do them over 5 days, not 3. Not sure what parameters to try setting.

If your goal is Polar Climber, you’ll likely see more LSD type rides scheduled. Bigger endurance rides generally work better than shorter rides. However you can easily spread these rather than do them all at once. We’ll have a look and see if there is a reason for you having bigger LSD rides other than this. Thanks for your feedback.

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What is the best way to handle cycling events during the training period?

Should I add it as a planned activity (with an estimate XSS), and then set my availability to unavailable? If I do that, will Xert consider that ride when forecasting the rides in the days after?

Yes. That’s the best way to add planned activities and yes it will include it in planning towards the outcome you’re looking for.

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Okay, that sounds good!

Also, it should ensure you’re fresh for it too. Added bonus. :smile: and schedule what’s appropriate after it.

Same here. It’s giving me longer workouts than I want to do this time of the year riding indoors and starting a progression for next season.
Perhaps the forecaster could compare what you’ve done same time of year last year to cap durations for flex days. I can see this visually by setting XPMC to show Year and comparing the two ends of the chart (forecast vs Dec/Jan last year).
In the meantime, I’ll try changing availability times and forecast again from scratch but I’d prefer a button to clear all times and leave the forecast intact.
I’m flipping back and forth between testing forecasts and a XATA 120 day TED to compare and select my workouts.

It sounds good that it will try to make me fresh for the event. I added the events as Mixed Endurance and see that I am yellow (and not blue) at the time the first event starts (Sun 25). I guess this means that you should be careful and select the proper focus for the event if I need to be fresher.

Pretty easy to experiment and see what happens.

I noticed that the Autogen feature is only available on the Training tab. If I use the planner and click Choose Training it will not show up even if I select the current day. Can you please make it available here as well, given you have selected today, tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow?

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What Forecast AI has done for me, ironically, has helped me understand better what’s going on behind the scenes with peak/high/low stress and more likely to set targets for each week and basically follow the 120 TED.

Weird issue today… I set up the forecast last week, it had me resting on Saturday and about 90 xss today. I ended up doing a light workout Saturday and about 135 xss today. There was a red Dot on the adapt training and so I clicked it figuring it would adapt my training this week to the work I actually did in the week just ending.

System refused to calculate and gave me the following error screen multiple times. I ended up starting the forecast over from the goal page and was able to push the goal up just slightly for the same goal date.

This is what I’ve been wondering about, if the goal is fixed but I do more work in the interim, it seems like it errors out trying to fit me into the same goal/time, if that makes sense. Wondering if that would be the case after a breakthrough as well, would I have to simply restart the entire planner as opposed to just hitting adapt.

Have seen same error where conditions have changed and Adapt Forecast stops on a particular date in future part way through the forecast.
Resolved it the same way you did.
Haven’t figured out exact steps to replicate so I can report it as a bug.

I had the same error message. I got it when I reduced my availability for one day. I think the problem is that the Adapt Forecast updates the calendar seven days at a time. If the availability inside these seven days is not enough (you are too far behind) you might need more than seven days to balance your plan. If Xert fails to find a solution it should increase the optimization window from seven days. Furthermore, Xert should ask the user to increase the availability for the relevant date range.

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I scheduled a long ride by setting my availability to “> 4 hours” for May 1 (a public holiday), but now Xert wants me to do a 9h37 – 577 XSS ride.

Can we please allow for a bit more control for longer rides? It is a big difference between doing a 4-hour ride and almost 10 hours. Maybe allow the user to select 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 hours? Or just type in the number of minutes when pressing custom?

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Any idea why the first ride of multiple rides has the XSS highlighted in red. I am currently doing the Rapha 500 and therefore catching up on a few Fulgaz shorter routes.

When in AI forecast mode I do miss the daily gauge chart that shows your position against XSS target.

I also struggle to see the total XSS of a few small rides combined. Of course I can add them up myself but I would prefer a total.

:smiley:

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